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Post by wheeler on Mar 31, 2009 3:34:40 GMT -5
Wow! We all love Melon, so why can't we just be together on that. I think the labels that are getting tossed around this topic are obsurd. I think it's fair for these guys, who we seem to admire so, to make their own executive decisions about the ways of their own band. I think that we forget they are just like us. Maybe they give us a voice when we're silenced or point out a new direction, but through and through their veins flow and blood boils just like me and just like you. Someone will come along and give them that urge to create music. They'll Rekindle that muted inferno and Blaze us yet again. We've just had it sweeten our lips, but so have they. The best is yet to come.
So Guys, I feel ya. Let it drive you.
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Post by vicki on Apr 1, 2009 0:34:32 GMT -5
there's no need to be an absolute purist here, imo. original blind melon will never, ever be again, and sad as that is, it's reality. the fact that they can still make beautiful music together (so to speak) is hopeful, don't you think?
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Post by wheeler on Apr 1, 2009 5:54:49 GMT -5
Like everything in life, we grow. Had Shannon still been with us, I don't think that their music would be the same. From album to album he grew in his style as a singer and with his lyrics. I have no doubt that what we would hear would be darastically different. As far as the rest of the band, they are still growing as people and evolving as artists, but I think something we have to ask ourselves is what we love about this band. Is it just the nostalgia or do we love what their music makes us feel in ourselves and around us? I'm not necessarily looking for the same old melon, just that they proke, in me, something. I don't want this last hurdle to break their connection. They speak so fluently to eachother (forget the lyrics) while they play. Hoon was that channel for us to grasp, even remotely, what is going on musically. I think Travis was tapping into it as well, so it's hard to see him part. Having another tap into that unspoken language is again very difficult,but a very possible reality. As far as being hopeful, what else can I do? It's not like their are many good bands playing anymore. It's just that same old canned music. Blind Melon was and is the real deal! So yeah, I"ll hope and pray for them to play again one day.
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Post by Rachel Ford on Apr 3, 2009 6:14:33 GMT -5
Like everything in life, we grow. Had Shannon still been with us, I don't think that their music would be the same. From album to album he grew in his style as a singer and with his lyrics. I have no doubt that what we would hear would be darastically different. As far as the rest of the band, they are still growing as people and evolving as artists, but I think something we have to ask ourselves is what we love about this band. Is it just the nostalgia or do we love what their music makes us feel in ourselves and around us? I'm not necessarily looking for the same old melon, just that they proke, in me, something. I don't want this last hurdle to break their connection. They speak so fluently to eachother (forget the lyrics) while they play. Hoon was that channel for us to grasp, even remotely, what is going on musically. I think Travis was tapping into it as well, so it's hard to see him part. Having another tap into that unspoken language is again very difficult,but a very possible reality. As far as being hopeful, what else can I do? It's not like their are many good bands playing anymore. It's just that same old canned music. Blind Melon was and is the real deal! So yeah, I"ll hope and pray for them to play again one day. well said!
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Post by 8807 on Apr 3, 2009 20:05:02 GMT -5
I'm counting My Blessings.I'm so Glad this MelonHead got another Blind Melon cd.I got to see those Guys Together playing Live 4X. All of it an incredible Experience.All of it with Shannon smiling as much as We were.Thank The Gods that Travis was able to pull it off as Well as He did.I thought he was great with The Boys up there.I'm so grateful i got to see The NYEShow.Amazing Melons & a Kick-ass performance.They sounded excellant at The Hyatt Venue that 4th & last time with Travis. The Boys are writing...still playin'...I hope they're having fun so we can reap The Rewards of another record/cd.I still have Hopes for another batch of songs under Blind Melon.Someone will come along & fit in naturally,someone who will fit in with the new songs & possibly be able to belt out some of Shannons songs,that's more than I can ask for.Till then I'll be looking for Brad to release his songs & I will check out TTW's my space & even listen to 00Metro,Unified Theory,Abandon Jalopy,E.I.E.,Nels Gift of those incredible 8 acoustic recordings of Shannons,The Old & The New Live performances,& all things Blind Melon. Peace,Love & Shannon Hoon JeffLightUnity
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Post by tamara on Apr 5, 2009 17:17:45 GMT -5
It took 10 years for them to find Travis... well, actually, Travis found them. So searching for a new singer could easily take years.
In my opinion, Travis never really bonded with the guys the way Shannon did. I think the reason for that is that Shannon WAS Blind Melon (as all 5 of the originals are), and Travis was always "the new singer of Blind Melon". I'm not saying that's how I personally saw Travis...I loved him as BM's singer!! I was like "Yes, you got it right!" But that's easy for me to say as a fan, and that's my opinion from the outside looking in. But with all the personal stuff I know, and don't know (but can imagine), I think Travis never FULLY became part of the band. Probably because of all the shit that went down, that even though the guys tried to ignore and/or solve, it was always there. And you could kind of see that, even as subtle as it was.
I'm not saying anyone was right or wrong, it just happened. Anywho, my point is, this new singer search could take a while.
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Post by ladyjane on Apr 5, 2009 18:08:19 GMT -5
Well, I come here almost everyday and read but never post. Some of you will understand what I'm trying to say others won't. To those who only love Shannon and the old great! Keep that alive. It is truly special. It's like picking up that old birthday or Valentines day card from your significant other that has past on and it has been sitting in the drawer for a couple of years. You open it up and the words still have passion, meaning, and can make you fall in love all over again, just like the day they were written! But from us that love the old and new, everytime you bash Travis or FMF, its like telling us that our new significant other is no good, a waste of time, energy, money, commitment. Its like saying we aren't allowed to put the past behind us, remarry so to speak. We definately haven't forgotten the old significant other and all that was shared with us. However, to me, some of the same qualities and characterisics in the new revive that love for the old, and i fall in love again everytime I hear the new doing the old. Many people say, "If anything ever happens to me, i want you to move on, find somebody new." I think that is a wonderful model for selflessness. I didn't know Shannon (I did clink beers with him in Jackson Miss. and say cheers...one of the highlights of my BM experiences.), but i can't help but think that he would be proud that many have moved on, remarried, haven't forgotten, but are finding joy in his band again. I've seen the new 7 times since '07. Every time was magical, every time personal, and every time made me appreciate and long for the old love while still being completely grateful for a little bit of the void that the new has filled. Travis has my vote and is more than worthy of playing with my other friends IMO. I like the way you put this. It's totally relatable, but more than that, maybe it will remind us that we are not the only ones that have to move on... the guys of BM do too. Whatever we, their fans, can do to support that, is exactly what we should do. Personally I'd have to shake Travis' hand just for having the cahoneys to go for it, knowing what he would be in for. I think comparing him to Shannon is a moot point anyway. Wasn't Shannon like his idol or something? Can you even imagine trying to live up to that? Were it me, everytime I got on stage and stared out at the sea of faces, "they're sizing me up to Shannon" would be going through my brain. Now how can you really be YOU when you constantly have that on your shoulders? Btw, I think his voice was strained because he was chain smoking cigs. Read that somewhere. And yeah, Tamara, I agree it may indeed take a long time.
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Post by Hoonaholic on Apr 5, 2009 19:35:48 GMT -5
Btw, I think his voice was strained because he was chain smoking cigs. Read that somewhere. Travis strained his voice because he was singing Shannon's songs night in and night out, anyone who trys to do that is going to have vocal problems, especially if your touring for two years straight. Travis didn't fucken chain smoke. He smokes a half a pack of cigarettes a day. He smokes just as much a Brad, Rogers, and Christopher (he smokes at night). So "Chain Smoken" wasnt the problem. It was the wear and tear of night after night for two years of tryen to belt out Shannon songs. And anyone whose tired to do so can tell you the same thing. And the new singer that they get is going to have the same problem. Theres not a single person in this world who can sing like Shannon and not expect to have vocal problems every now and then.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2009 20:12:20 GMT -5
Smoking dries your throat... Smoking in your personal room will funk your throat up... Lighting candles that give off smoke, in your personal room, will also funk your throat up... Smoking for ANY singer, is bad... Shannon didnt smoke.
There is not a person, that the band will pick, who will sing like Shannon.
People have to start realizing that....
Smoking is not good for any singer... Whether it be 1/2 pack a day, or 3 packs a day... If you are a singer and choose to smoke, you are basically taking a (long-term) risk on your career.
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Post by vicki on Apr 5, 2009 20:26:30 GMT -5
Travis strained his voice because he was singing Shannon's songs night in and night out, anyone who trys to do that is going to have vocal problems, especially if your touring for two years straight. Travis didn't fucken chain smoke. He smokes a half a pack of cigarettes a day. He smokes just as much a Brad, Rogers, and Christopher (he smokes at night). So "Chain Smoken" wasnt the problem. It was the wear and tear of night after night for two years of tryen to belt out Shannon songs. And anyone whose tired to do so can tell you the same thing. And the new singer that they get is going to have the same problem. Theres not a single person in this world who can sing like Shannon and not expect to have vocal problems every now and then. have you tried to sing like that? just asking. also, no offense, but you wouldn't have been around to see him chain smoking if he did indeed do that on tour, would you? because I actually heard direct reports from people I know that he WAS pretty much chain smoking, or was at least on a couple of dates (I can't speak for the other dates, of course). I imagine he'd have been pretty stressed out on the tour. but unless you actually are Travis in disguise, you don't really know what he was up to. right? I'm actually not trying to be a dick here, I'm just saying.
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Post by tamara on Apr 5, 2009 20:37:34 GMT -5
Shannon has big shoes to fill. No doubt. Would you wonder what people thought of you? Oh for sure! But I think if you were a certain type of person, you would just go out there and fucking do it. I have no idea how Travis felt actually, I never asked him. But, there is a fine line between wondering what the people think and being worried what the people think. As for the smoking I am not a doctor so I can't comment. Also, I agree with Vicki, how could any of us possibly know how much Travis really smoked...except Travis...and probably his bandmates. Maybe this is a question for Glen's thread!
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Post by Hoonaholic on Apr 5, 2009 21:50:24 GMT -5
Travis strained his voice because he was singing Shannon's songs night in and night out, anyone who trys to do that is going to have vocal problems, especially if your touring for two years straight. Travis didn't fucken chain smoke. He smokes a half a pack of cigarettes a day. He smokes just as much a Brad, Rogers, and Christopher (he smokes at night). So "Chain Smoken" wasnt the problem. It was the wear and tear of night after night for two years of tryen to belt out Shannon songs. And anyone whose tired to do so can tell you the same thing. And the new singer that they get is going to have the same problem. Theres not a single person in this world who can sing like Shannon and not expect to have vocal problems every now and then. have you tried to sing like that? just asking. also, no offense, but you wouldn't have been around to see him chain smoking if he did indeed do that on tour, would you? because I actually heard direct reports from people I know that he WAS pretty much chain smoking, or was at least on a couple of dates (I can't speak for the other dates, of course). I imagine he'd have been pretty stressed out on the tour. but unless you actually are Travis in disguise, you don't really know what he was up to. right? I'm actually not trying to be a dick here, I'm just saying. I went to five dates in a row, over a 10 day span, and hung out with Travis for HOURS, and DAYS, and I smoke way more then he did and I smoke under a pack a day. Oh yeah not to mention I talk to Travis on the phone at least once every two weeks and TRAVIS told me HIMSELF! HE DOESN'T CHAIN SMOKE! That he only smokes a half a pack or 3/4th a pack a day! SO THAT'S COMING FROM TRAVIS! And no offense.....I'm sorry you relay on all the hear say you have heard from other people. Rather then you knowing the facts for your self. Before you make actuation's I would know the facts for your self and not relay other people to give you your point of view. "I'm actually not trying to be a dick here, I'm just saying." Smoking dries your throat... Smoking in your personal room will funk your throat up... Lighting candles that give off smoke, in your personal room, will also funk your throat up... Smoking for ANY singer, is bad... Shannon didnt smoke. There is not a person, that the band will pick, who will sing like Shannon. People have to start realizing that.... Smoking is not good for any singer... Whether it be 1/2 pack a day, or 3 packs a day... If you are a singer and choose to smoke, you are basically taking a (long-term) risk on your career. Shannon smoked a SHIT TON of UNFILTERED marijuana, I'm guess if a candle is bad...then pot is too. I'm not saying that smoken doesn't hurt your vocals, I'm saying smoken wasn't the cause of his vocal trouble, it was the stress of tryen to sing like Shannon!
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Post by tamara on Apr 6, 2009 0:16:13 GMT -5
Maybe he doesn't chain smoke now but he could have then. Maybe he learned a lesson. And if you're trying to sound important by telling everyone you're BFF with Travis that's great. Are we supposed to be envious? I bet there are a lot of fans out there who spent time with Travis and have his phone number. And maybe Vicki heard about his smoking from his mom, how do you know? And by the way, YOU telling us Travis said he doesn't chain smoke is also hearsay.
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Post by vicki on Apr 6, 2009 1:03:13 GMT -5
have you tried to sing like that? just asking. also, no offense, but you wouldn't have been around to see him chain smoking if he did indeed do that on tour, would you? because I actually heard direct reports from people I know that he WAS pretty much chain smoking, or was at least on a couple of dates (I can't speak for the other dates, of course). I imagine he'd have been pretty stressed out on the tour. but unless you actually are Travis in disguise, you don't really know what he was up to. right? I'm actually not trying to be a dick here, I'm just saying. I went to five dates in a row, over a 10 day span, and hung out with Travis for HOURS, and DAYS, and I smoke way more then he did and I smoke under a pack a day. Oh yeah not to mention I talk to Travis on the phone at least once every two weeks and TRAVIS told me HIMSELF! HE DOESN'T CHAIN SMOKE! That he only smokes a half a pack or 3/4th a pack a day! SO THAT'S COMING FROM TRAVIS! And no offense.....I'm sorry you relay on all the hear say you have heard from other people. Rather then you knowing the facts for your self. Before you make actuation's I would know the facts for your self and not relay other people to give you your point of view. "I'm actually not trying to be a dick here, I'm just saying." Smoking dries your throat... Smoking in your personal room will funk your throat up... Lighting candles that give off smoke, in your personal room, will also funk your throat up... Smoking for ANY singer, is bad... Shannon didnt smoke. There is not a person, that the band will pick, who will sing like Shannon. People have to start realizing that.... Smoking is not good for any singer... Whether it be 1/2 pack a day, or 3 packs a day... If you are a singer and choose to smoke, you are basically taking a (long-term) risk on your career. Shannon smoked a SHIT TON of UNFILTERED marijuana, I'm guess if a candle is bad...then pot is too. I'm not saying that smoken doesn't hurt your vocals, I'm saying smoken wasn't the cause of his vocal trouble, it was the stress of tryen to sing like Shannon! www.sadtrombone.com
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Post by yves on Apr 6, 2009 8:04:20 GMT -5
I went to five dates in a row, over a 10 day span, and hung out with Travis for HOURS, and DAYS, and I smoke way more then he did and I smoke under a pack a day. Oh yeah not to mention I talk to Travis on the phone at least once every two weeks and TRAVIS told me HIMSELF! HE DOESN'T CHAIN SMOKE! That he only smokes a half a pack or 3/4th a pack a day! SO THAT'S COMING FROM TRAVIS! And no offense.....I'm sorry you relay on all the hear say you have heard from other people. Rather then you knowing the facts for your self. Before you make actuation's I would know the facts for your self and not relay other people to give you your point of view. "I'm actually not trying to be a dick here, I'm just saying." Shannon smoked a SHIT TON of UNFILTERED marijuana, I'm guess if a candle is bad...then pot is too. I'm not saying that smoken doesn't hurt your vocals, I'm saying smoken wasn't the cause of his vocal trouble, it was the stress of tryen to sing like Shannon! www.sadtrombone.comsad trombone rules!
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