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Post by Rachel Ford on Mar 9, 2010 20:27:48 GMT -5
I'd be willing to bet that 90% of the people up in arms over this have "unauthorized bootlegs" that they paid money for ..... Im not trying to argue with people on here and I respect everyones own opinion. I love my Melon fam!!!!!!!!! I do have some bootlegs in my collection that I payed money for , but for a very good reason, and 1 reason only. For some of you that havent been in the Melon community from early on there were hoarders out there that just werent ever gonna let some shows see the light of day and it irked me to no end that the only way to get them was to pay alot of money for them( some of which the hoarders wanted me to agree to not trade them, so I just gave them away instead) . I did that so that US the Melon community could have them for open free trade. The reason some of those shows are in the collections of most were due to the sacrifice of few people who srounged the bottomless pits to excavate them out of the hoarders. What was done there was that myself and a few others widely spread them and offered them up for free trade. We overflooded the community with these so that they couldnt be sold again ( atleast for not as much as I payed for them ) Believe me ya dont wanna know, itd make you sick. Taking 50 copies of them to the early vigils and handing them out brought joy to many....being able to gift them to Shannons family ( which didnt have them either was very delightful and satisfying ) . Its the only reason money was payed for them was that future generations wouldnt have to pay for what should be free trade only(and that was the ONLY way to obtain them). Since this was a gift from Nel that she could of made a ton of money off of, she chose to gift them to us and for that I will be forever grateful. Back in the day you could see who was bidding on these and send them a message and offer them B&P's ( dont think ya can do that anymore? ? ) I do sympathize for those that are paying for these and dont know how to find them for free, its not those who are of concern. Its the ones who are trying to make a profit and take advantage of people. I actually have an old catalog from someone back in the day who made a shit ton of money from Blind Melon bootlegs and bootlegged tshirts....It starts by 1 or 2 listings on ebay and then they send the catalog along with the shipment so that what you see on Ebay is an innocent 1 or 2 items here n there are actually alot more in the big scheme of things. See they see the ones who dont know any better then prey on them. When i figure out how to work my scanner and hook it up I would be glad to scan the catalog and post pics here so others see what Im talking about. MML&R Rachel
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2010 2:56:45 GMT -5
Wow, I saw this thread not 3 minute after sending the download link to a new friend and It really pisses me off, I reported and I am about to send him a message.I haven't paid for any bootlegs (yet.) I've spent a lot of time searching and asking people to hook me up, so I mean I don't see that being an issue.
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Post by Brad Dub on Mar 10, 2010 7:08:19 GMT -5
Once the auction is complete, we can contact the buyer through eBay and they can either remain ripped off or do something about it. Feedback is everything to a seller on eBay.
As I type this, a thought popped in my head, what would happen if one of us bidded on it and then simply didn't pay for it. Then as the buyer, couldn't you let eBay know that you had a concern about the validity of the item? Just curious.
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Post by larryward on Mar 10, 2010 16:07:58 GMT -5
Woah Dude, I remember when I first got these it was really on the down low. I for one kept it that way. Someone is a real fucker.
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Post by GRUMPIN on Mar 10, 2010 16:14:09 GMT -5
LAME
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Post by Randall Peenk on Mar 10, 2010 18:26:33 GMT -5
It's definitely fucked up... Pisses me off how someone, obviously a member of this forum (or someone who DLed the files from the MySpace site), would try to make money off of this.. If someone wants a CD cover, and label... to make it all look pretty... I can do that for them... eMail them the large files to print out, or print it out and mail it to them at my cost. Thats not to bad of an Idea actually Matt as long as the funds went to his family and or vigilstock. I would have links to the auction posted on shannonhoon.com, or just set up shop on the site. I'd love to see some nice crafts made my members sold on there with proceeds going where they deserve to go.
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Post by C.J. on Mar 10, 2010 22:40:38 GMT -5
I wouldn't be too hard on the guy, he might of gotten the cd off of someone else and didn't realize what it was or why it might be illegal. What reasons did you guys use for reporting this? I'm not sure which options to put.
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Post by theduke81 on Mar 10, 2010 22:50:19 GMT -5
Seems like ya have to walk on "egg shells" round here now. If ya post in the wrong forum you'll be accused of disrespect toward Blind Melon by "high ranking" heads. Based on past experience, I should have known better to express any thought in this thread. But the title was HELP US STOP THIS. I just get fed up with "high and mighty" judgmental types. I used to believe this place was an oasis far away from judgment. You walk a fine line when judging others.
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Post by smcoop on Mar 11, 2010 7:33:43 GMT -5
I REPORTED IT ALSO..HOWEVER IM NEW TO THIS SITE..CAN SOMEONE SO ME HOW TO DOWNLOAD THE SONGS....THANK YOU U NEL FOR GIVING US ANOTHER PIECE OF SHANNON FOR "FREE"...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2010 8:26:36 GMT -5
Seems like ya have to walk on "egg shells" round here now. If ya post in the wrong forum you'll be accused of disrespect toward Blind Melon by "high ranking" heads. Based on past experience, I should have known better to express any thought in this forum. But the title was HELP US STOP THIS. I just get fed up with "high and mighty" judgmental types. I used to believe this place was an oasis far away from judgment. You walk a fine line when judging others. Seems like everytime I log in I find some negative topic in the mailbox. Sorry you feel that way... I don't see this thread as a negative thread.. more of a heads-up/support thread. But, why the quick change of heart? Yea, thats F'd up. It's also illegal right? Whats the status on it. Did it sell? The only thing you can do is keep your eyes and ears open.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2010 8:27:53 GMT -5
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Post by oregonguy on Mar 11, 2010 9:37:33 GMT -5
archive.org has quite a few free legal Melon shows from 93-08. There is a release from the band making this ok. Lots of good stuff, Buckethead, Hank 3, Ryan Adams, There's like 7000 Dead shows, Smashing Pumpkins... All that is asked is that no one sells them.
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Post by breck20 on Mar 11, 2010 10:43:57 GMT -5
Seems like ya have to walk on "egg shells" round here now. If ya post in the wrong forum you'll be accused of disrespect toward Blind Melon by "high ranking" heads. Based on past experience, I should have known better to express any thought in this forum. But the title was HELP US STOP THIS. I just get fed up with "high and mighty" judgmental types. I used to believe this place was an oasis far away from judgment. You walk a fine line when judging others. Seems like everytime I log in I find some negative topic in the mailbox. I just really don't understand this whole post. I have never found anyone on this forum to be "high and mighty" nor have I seen or "heard" any of the "high ranking heads" flame anyone. You seem to want to express opinion, but then are upset when someone else expresses an opposite one. Everyone on here has the right to post what they want, just as you do. Differing opinion is what facilitates discussion. If you do not agree that selling someone elses intellectual property is wrong then don't report it. Just because someone can take scans of copyrighted pictures and burn someone else's music doesn't mean they should be able to sell it. What if it was your music or pictures? You worked long and hard on them and some guy with a computer comes in, puts them in a nice package and puts it up on ebay. You see nothing while he recieves profit for all your work. Then there is the buyer, they get ripped off because they can come here where the "high ranking heads" give it to us for free. I am sure you will take this post as a flame, but it is just to try to get you to see another aspect of why people are upset. Shannon's Mom, Nel, works so hard every year to bring about the vigil and to continue to give us something of Shannon all the time. If someone was to profit from the selling of these songs, it should be her, but she chose to give them to us. Reporting isn't just about it being illegal, it is also about respect for Nel, Shannon, and the band. Again, not a flame, but you have said some negative things yourself about others on the forum, so I just wanted to give you some other food for thought. Peace, and have a great day.
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Post by Brad Dub on Mar 11, 2010 12:20:27 GMT -5
Amen breck20, I agree with you.
I just wish the seller would stand behind what they are selling, and answer our emails about it (assuming no one has gotten a response). This fact alone, leads me to believe the seller is ashamed.
I will also add, that I believe the seller is a member of this here forum. What is being sold was put together by someone that knows their Melon. If they can produce that CD and put it up on Ebay, then they have a computer and internet. If they have those things, then they have been here. What's my point? That they know what they are doing. And that's what pisses me off the most. That they don't care. No way you dice it, it's a middle finger to Nel. As far as I am concerned, if your giving Nel the finger, then your giving my wife and my mom and my daughter and myself the finger. Nel is family. And as I tell you that, I stand here with the biggest middle finger I can extend pointed in your direction.
Sorry if to some that goes against the peaceful nature of this band and forum but Shannon and Tim are no longer here to take care of Nel so some of us are gonna.
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