The BOOK thread

[bumcakes]

Wow BEE what a bunch of kerfuffel this book has around it...

I just read about all the Oprah jazz here:

www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0104061jamesfrey1.html

I see they called it "A million little lies" hahaa.
BLIMEY!!!

I kinda see what the problem is...but...Then again...if it is mostly lies, even so, its a damn good book??

A better book i read (which has nothing to do with james frey book by the way) called "Lovely Bones" its all fictional but it is SO amazing, will definately make you think of things in other ways i reccomend it to everyone!!!

[~BEE~Happy~]

Ya, it was actually a good book, a good story. I don't know, maybe I just didn't worry about the little things in it, like if he was in jail for an incorrect amt. of time etc.

I have to admit, I am surprised that there wasn't more response, or backlash for that matter about the fact that he did not believe in god, nor did he ever adopt the 12 steps as part of his recovery at the detox center. Not that it matters, I actually know plenty of very amazing people who have simply made a descision to stop drinking, etc in one day, and have never gone back, so I believe it is possible. I just know that the whole foundation of AA revloves around anonymity for one thing, but there is a HUGE value placed on a higher power and working 12 specific steps toward recovery. I am curious as to why that part of the book didn't really get much of a debate or two. It could have been viewed as offensive by those who really find it helpful.

Either way, I'll admit, a few scenarios did seem to set themselves up rather unrealisticlly, or maybe he really was just that lucky sometimes...who knows. It was a good story, and I would most likely have enjoyed it just as much had I known it was fiction. (possibly fiction, as Frey stands by his story as truth/or embellished truth anyway).

thanks for the link to the articles, I hadn't really gotten that far yet. I am on my way to another trip, and I'll deffinitely pick up Lovely Bones for the airport!

#haha#

[~BEE~Happy~]

I also wanted to add, Bumcakes, that I really love the word kerfuffel...

[bumcakes]

hahaha cheers,
i didnt know what else to write to describe all the fuss im at a loss with 'proper' vocab lol...although i suppose "fuss" would have been appropriatley boring.

Hey yeah im surprised they only really focused on his arrests, halfway through the article i was like "this is boring dont they ever get bored of ripping this guys book"

but yeah there was some good points in it...but like, its 5am and i cant be bothered to get myself into a jubby over it...i read it, i liked it, the article shocked me for a mere 5 minutes. Now im tired and i dont care anymore hahaha

BEEEEE sure to pick up "lovely bones" you wont regret it i swear.

[~BEE~Happy~]

Sorry Bumcakes, I got my hands on another book right now, couldn't turn it down. Have you read "The Devil in the White City"? By Erik Larson. Has anyone?

It is based on a true story, and Evrything is documented n the Library of Congress etc...

Anyhoon- it is a story about how the World's Fair was hosted in the city of Chicago, IL. in the 1890's. There are actually 2 storyilines going at the same time... One is about the architect who designed the whole thing, the other is about a serial killer who was taking advantage of trusting tourists etc. (he is potentially responsible for over 200 of the deaths that occured during that time) and the two plots intertwine as they proceed to solve these cases while maintaing a great front and hosting this world's fair.... I've only read a couple chapters so far though...

"Murder, Magic and Madness at the Fair that Changed America"

So I guess it is a bit of a history lesson, but the person who lent it to me said he was in "mourning" when he finished.... so sad it was over!

So I'll get Lovely bones next.

[Joel]

Best book i have ever read is "The Dirt".
Biography of Mötley Crüe..I have read it 3 times now and will probably start reading it again soon for the 4th time..
Now i`m reading "White Line Fever".Biography of Lemmy Kilmister.
I only have a few pages left so after that one i`ll start on "Satisfaction"..The story of Keth Richards.

[~BEE~Happy~]

Nice!

[azrael]

Yeah that Motley Crue biography is the best biography I've ever read, side by side with The Long Hard Road Out Of Hell by Marilyn Manson (co-written by Neil Strauss, the same bloke who co-wrote the Dirt).

At the moment I have just finished Jesus & The Lost Goddess by Timothy Freke & Peter Ghandy. It's got me into Christian Gnosticism in a big way, after putting it under heavy scrutiny it doesn't seem to be the hollow conspiracy theory I thought it would be.

I am currently a few chapters into Degeneration by Max Simon Nordau (for the 2nd time), it's a pre-Freudian psycho-analytical study of 'degenerates' in the fin-de-siecle of later 19th Century Europe. Written by a Zionist it smashes mystics, modern artists (modern for that time, I dread to think of what he would think of artists today), drug addicts, criminals & any other group not making a productive input to society (he thought everyone should be doing hard labour all day). It's so interesting to imagine artists we now view as tame & conservative were at one time regarded as vulgar & wacked out, it'd be interesting to see into the future incase artists such as Marilyn Manson, Alice Cooper, & other scapegoats of moral decay are seen in the same light then.

Once I've done that I move on to Beyond Good & Evil by Friedrich Nietzsche.

I read far too much, I have a life really, I promise.

[~BEE~Happy~]

No! Keep reading, my friend! It took my a while to actually begin reading ....and FINISHING books. But when you get your hands on something intriguing, interestng and thought provoking it is another thing to appreciate. I love reading too! And I love discussing what others get out of their reading experience. Like music and lyrics, we all get what we need out of someone's story.

Also, I like to learn, and I simply love to appreciate the people who can put words together and make it work.

Really though, maybe we're both dorks!

[azrael]

I probably am, I finished the ones I talked about during my last post. Now I'm on Dracula: The Novel & The Legend by Clive Leatherdale & Science & The Renewal Of Belief by Russel Stannard.

I read so much because I don't watch t.v., except Deal Or No Deal, that's essential, so I have plenty of time to read & learn stupid instruments (I got a kazoo today wooo!)

[bumcakes]

OOH OOH can i be a dork too please!
pleeease pleeeease!

i dont watch tv either.
mainly because i dont have any channels on my tv...i only use it to watch dvds.

and im unemployed...

so im always doing about a million things at once.
like now for example, im looking for my blind melon dvd, writing this, talking to a friend, drinking orange juice and drawing and thinking about what my reaction would be if i woke up one day with my eye at the side of my head like those flat fish in iceland waters....all at once.

ok...maybe im telling porkies.
My eye would never move to the side of my head in my sleep because i sleep on the side just to make sure it cant move.

Since this is the book thread....
i read pride and prejudice last week...cuz im a geek.
and this week im reading Donna Tart's "the little friend"
its a wierd book...wirdly fascinating though
i reccomend both.

[Barbara]

bumcakes said:

OOH OOH can i be a dork too please!
pleeease pleeeease!

i dont watch tv either.
mainly because i dont have any channels on my tv...i only use it to watch dvds.

and im unemployed...

so im always doing about a million things at once.
like now for example, im looking for my blind melon dvd, writing this, talking to a friend, drinking orange juice and drawing and thinking about what my reaction would be if i woke up one day with my eye at the side of my head like those flat fish in iceland waters....all at once.

ok...maybe im telling porkies.
My eye would never move to the side of my head in my sleep because i sleep on the side just to make sure it cant move.

#smiley_abzw#


Oh bumcakes, I really wonder where do you get all those joke ideas from! How can you be unemployed??! You should just go on a theater stage and do a monodrama - or better monocomedy if this word exists!

I don't have much to say about books cause I'm also one of the people that don't read...or VERY little... I thought that after reading the two books I recomended, I'll start reading again but actually no...before reading those two books, it's been a veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time I haven't finished one...actualy I usualy stoped after a few pages...exept for the theoretically-philosophical books I HAD to read on University...maybe it contributed to my book traumatism, hehe.

[~BEE~Happy~]

I sort of understand book traumatism.... except I never read single one in high school.... oops, I did read catcher in the rye. Maybe becasue it was shorter. Never even read in college either...just took really good notes. Most of my classes were science oriented, so I used those books for late at night when Icouldn't sleep. That works like sleeping pills!

I love having them around for reference though.... and now I can't get enough of good stories.....!

Try White Oleander, one of he first I really got into too... forgot I was reading.

Or, rent the movie I guess... they did an ok job, but left out tons, as usual.

Ok, 'nuff from me for now.

[~BEE~Happy~]

azrael said:

I probably am, I finished the ones I talked about during my last post. Now I'm on Dracula: The Novel & The Legend by Clive Leatherdale & Science & The Renewal Of Belief by Russel Stannard.

I read so much because I don't watch t.v., except Deal Or No Deal, that's essential, so I have plenty of time to read & learn stupid instruments (I got a kazoo today wooo!)

I got a kazoo last week in the mail too! What color is yours?

[azrael]

karen said:

Try White Oleander, one of he first I really got into too... forgot I was reading.

Or, rent the movie I guess... they did an ok job, but left out tons, as usual.

Yeah I saw the movie, 'twas alright, I assumed the book would be better but never got around to doing it as I never read fiction.



Oh & my kazoo is [glow=red,2,300]red[/glow]