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Post by styckx on Nov 13, 2006 0:29:04 GMT -5
I just like tossing in random things to conversations... for instance Whens the last time you've seen a old man riding a llama? Exactly
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Post by foreverlights on Nov 13, 2006 0:38:12 GMT -5
I'll add part of my rant which was in the "Rogers Said" thread...
It's the dawn of a new time, a new era of Blind Melon, so enjoy it while you can... It is devastating that Shannon is no longer with us here, but Blind Melon has been reborn, having been dead for 11 years... As Melonheads, we were not only mourning the loss of Shannon, but a great band and a great sound... Sure some may think the new sound is different, but at least it is something, at least they are together again, at least they are here in our eyes and ears in flesh and bones... Shannon Hoon is a memory, an idea... and just because he is not with us now, doesn't mean that the other four, now five, should bare undeserved criticism for not sounding the same when Shannon was here... You see, Blind Melon is also a memory, an idea, but it is living and breathing and we should cherish it while it is still here...
If Melonheads from the 1990's era do not like the new sound, you don't have to listen... also you don't have to bad-mouth it on this forum... i for one don't want to hear it... i have been on this forum for a year and not once has there been any negativity on this board, and with this influx of new members i'm sure if you are true Melonheads, it will stay positive, and supportive... The band is re-emerging, starting from scratch and needs help from fans, old and new, to be recognised again...
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Post by styckx on Nov 13, 2006 0:48:55 GMT -5
I'll add part of my rant which was in the "Rogers Said" thread... It's the dawn of a new time, a new era of Blind Melon, so enjoy it while you can... It is devastating that Shannon is no longer with us here, but Blind Melon has been reborn, having been dead for 11 years... As Melonheads, we were not only mourning the loss of Shannon, but a great band and a great sound... Sure some may think the new sound is different, but at least it is something, at least they are together again, at least they are here in our eyes and ears in flesh and bones... Shannon Hoon is a memory, an idea... and just because he is not with us now, doesn't mean that the other four, now five, should bare undeserved criticism for not sounding the same when Shannon was here... You see, Blind Melon is also a memory, an idea, but it is living and breathing and we should cherish it while it is still here... If Melonheads from the 1990's era do not like the new sound, you don't have to listen... also you don't have to bad-mouth it on this forum... i for one don't want to hear it... i have been on this forum for a year and not once has there been any negativity on this board, and with this influx of new members i'm sure if you are true Melonheads, it will stay positive, and supportive... The band is re-emerging, starting from scratch and needs help from fans, old and new, to be recognised again... I 100% agree, I'm a HUGE weezer fan, and I had to leave the weezer boards ages ago because of this exact thing. Every new album, or demo, turned into a clusterfuck of "It's not pinkerton". I can't pinpoint the exact year, or peroid when fans of bands started this "make the music we want, not what the band wants", thing, but it really disgusts me sometimes. I'm not trying to be negative by any means, but, I don't know, maybe us melonheads were brought up differently, or something.. I don't know, but, I've been in a band before, abeit, we were no bodys, we were just a bunch of guys trying to create some tunes we ourselves enjoy making. Let me say, it's the hardest and most mind fucking experience to try and create a "song". These guys in 5 days put together 3 songs that I enjoy listening to, it's refreshing, and great music.. They could call themselves Limp Bizkit at this point and I would still listen.. My name is Bill, I've been called many other names in my lifetime, but, I'm still me at heart, and so is blind melon
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Post by linwoodlarsons on Nov 13, 2006 0:57:33 GMT -5
I've read people complain because they sound "different" with a new singer. I for one, am glad they soud different. If they tried to sound the same, that would be the insult. It was Rogers himself who said they didn't want to go on a "nostaglia trip."
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Post by foreverlights on Nov 13, 2006 1:47:07 GMT -5
Totally agree Linwood... I'm not going to be cliche by put it in Shannon's words, but im sure these words reflect that the Times they are a-changing...
Come gather 'round people Wherever you roam And admit that the waters Around you have grown And accept it that soon You'll be drenched to the bone. If your time to you Is worth savin' Then you better start swimmin' Or you'll sink like a stone For the times they are a-changin'.
Come writers and critics Who prophesize with your pen And keep your eyes wide The chance won't come again And don't speak too soon For the wheel's still in spin And there's no tellin' who That it's namin'. For the loser now Will be later to win For the times they are a-changin'.
Come senators, congressmen Please heed the call Don't stand in the doorway Don't block up the hall For he that gets hurt Will be he who has stalled There's a battle outside And it is ragin'. It'll soon shake your windows And rattle your walls For the times they are a-changin'.
Come mothers and fathers Throughout the land And don't criticize What you can't understand Your sons and your daughters Are beyond your command Your old road is Rapidly agin'. Please get out of the new one If you can't lend your hand For the times they are a-changin'.
The line it is drawn The curse it is cast The slow one now Will later be fast As the present now Will later be past The order is Rapidly fadin'. And the first one now Will later be last For the times they are a-changin'.
Well said Mr Zimmerman...
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Post by yakmusic on Nov 13, 2006 3:02:33 GMT -5
Shannon Hoon is a memory and just because he is not with us now, doesn't mean that the other four, now five, should bare undeserved criticism for not sounding the same when Shannon was here... I love the quote. It's so true. Why should the band bare any negative criticism? Times are changing, it's been 11 years, people! The guys haven't been frozen for 11 years and thawed out to play the same music (ok...thats a little odd) - they have been in numerous bands, and when you play with different people you pick up different influences here and there. The best thing about this new music is this how the sounds has evolved and how Travis has added his special ingredient to the new sound. The guys will always sound fantastic together - they are brothers forever and us Melonheads can't wait for the new album, and the touring to start happening again (world touring I hope..hint hint)! LET'S EMBRACE THIS NEW ERA MELONHEADS AND ENJOY THE RIDE THESE GUYS ARE TAKING!!
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Post by ishbell on Nov 13, 2006 8:53:06 GMT -5
In life you can't always look behind you, you have to look ahead. Nobody would know that you've only played together 10 days in 10 years, it's like you never stopped, you guys sound great. If someone would of told me 11 years ago that I'd be on a forum with a bunch of melonheads discussing the bands return with Glen Graham, I would have told them they were nuts!!!!!!!
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Post by Barbara on Nov 13, 2006 9:53:45 GMT -5
At first listen I was not very happy with what I heard, but I researved my judgement until I gave it more of a chance. But once I listened more and read the lyrics my attitude changed. No, it is not Shannon Melon, and i do think the overall sound has changed a bit, but I fully expected that. As people grow and change, so does the music. I feel the same. I did love the songs at first listen but not as much as I did when I really sat back and listen to the songs properly. Then the more I listened to them, the more I loved them. And seeing how great the lyrics are it all became even better. I feel some melon in it but for me it's not the same, and like you said, I fully expected that. I LOVE the new songs, totaly. I'm not looking for the feeling of the old melon. I'm just looking for some awesome new music and from what I've heard by now, it was worth waiting 11 years for it. I can't wait for the new record. If someone would of told me 11 years ago that I'd be on a forum with a bunch of melonheads discussing the bands return with Glen Graham, I would have told them they were nuts!!!!!!! Agreed. 10 years ago I just discovered Blind Melon and was desperatly trying to make people hear in their music what I do. With no success. Then I gave up. And started looking for melonheads only one year ago when I found this forum I know I said all that already. Sorry. But it just feels so good, lol
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Post by *Sonya* on Nov 13, 2006 10:21:45 GMT -5
About the name... If you lost your right arm, would you change your name? (That is the best I can come up with.) Glen Graham Here is a copy of what I posted in the "What Rogers Said In 1997" thread that may help people look at the band keeping the name from a different point of view. Think of it this way...a husband and a wife have children together...the wife tragically passes away and the family is devastated. The husband vows to never remarry...that he could never disrespect his deceased wife by letting another woman into the life of his family...time passes...mourning occurs...healing occurs....then by chance one day a decade later he meets a woman who he absoulutely falls in love with and marries her. The children know their mother can never be replaced but they accept her because they want their dad to be happy. I don't think this man's friends and family would say "NO you should not remarry, and in fact if you do get married you better not give your new wife your last name. You should call yourselves something completely different". The point I'm making is that a band is a family...not a traditional one, but it certainly is a family. Don't think of this situation so rigidly...in my opinion the situation I brought up about a husband remarrying should be a more contraversial one than a band reuniting. People remarry within a few years after the death of a spouse...much less time than it took Blind Melon to come back together. GET OVER IT! IT IS A GOOD THING, ACCEPT IT! We are all here because we love Blind Melon's music...don't be so selfish to hold the point of view that they should never play together again. If that is what you wish to preach in this forum, your message will fall on deaf ears. I'm sure you'll find lots of people who sympathize with you elsewhere.
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Post by melonwheels on Nov 13, 2006 10:53:36 GMT -5
. . . . . . Hey Glen ole buddy!! If you ever need to call in sick someday I'd be happy to sit in with the band!!! Have drum set - will travel.
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Post by blindmelon333 on Nov 13, 2006 11:17:24 GMT -5
About the name... If you lost your right arm, would you change your name? (That is the best I can come up with.) Glen Graham Here is a copy of what I posted in the "What Rogers Said In 1997" thread that may help people look at the band keeping the name from a different point of view. Think of it this way...a husband and a wife have children together...the wife tragically passes away and the family is devastated. The husband vows to never remarry...that he could never disrespect his deceased wife by letting another woman into the life of his family...time passes...mourning occurs...healing occurs....then by chance one day a decade later he meets a woman who he absoulutely falls in love with and marries her. The children know their mother can never be replaced but they accept her because they want their dad to be happy. I don't think this man's friends and family would say "NO you should not remarry, and in fact if you do get married you better not give your new wife your last name. You should call yourselves something completely different". The point I'm making is that a band is a family...not a traditional one, but it certainly is a family. Don't think of this situation so rigidly...in my opinion the situation I brought up about a husband remarrying should be a more contraversial one than a band reuniting. People remarry within a few years after the death of a spouse...much less time than it took Blind Melon to come back together. GET OVER IT! IT IS A GOOD THING, ACCEPT IT! We are all here because we love Blind Melon's music...don't be so selfish to hold the point of view that they should never play together again. If that is what you wish to preach in this forum, your message will fall on deaf ears. I'm sure you'll find lots of people who sympathize with you elsewhere. Ya know what... you are so right! Thats true, people can move on. For God sakes, I'm not saying that the band should never play together again... I"m just trying to say that some things should be keopt sacred and not touched... Like the name... Like saying that Shannon is dancing up in heaven right now because he's so happy they are back together writing songs as Blind Melon. Fuck that! Also, that fucking picture should be taken down of Shannon kissing Travis. If someone got remarried and kept the fathers name and you put a picture of the dead wife kissing the new wife, how the fuck would that look??? ITS THE SAME THING!!!! Your a sick fuck! Take that off!! p.s. if Nel saw that should would most likely FLIP
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Post by greg on Nov 13, 2006 11:28:04 GMT -5
This is a peaceful forum that rarely tolerates negativity...if you have a personal issue to address with me I would prefer that you do so utilizing the PM (Personal Message) feature that this board supplies. There are many different ways to approach addressing an issue that is of real concern to you, but making demands with such negativity is one that will not produce the results that you are insisting on. Please refrain from name calling.
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Post by *Sonya* on Nov 13, 2006 11:28:26 GMT -5
Just because you don't agree with someone's signature doesn't give you the right to call them a sick fuck in a public forum. It's not like it's a picture of Travis pissing on Shannon's grave...now that would be sick and disrespectful. Settle down and lighten up. Your negativity isn't going to win you many friends around here...sorry but that's how it is.
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Post by *Sonya* on Nov 13, 2006 11:33:05 GMT -5
By the way...maybe you are unaware of how huge of an influence Shannon was on Travis and his musical style. I have not seen this with my own eyes, but I have heard that Travis has a huge backpiece tattoo of Shannon...that is a true fan. I don't see how the picture is disrespectful judging by the amount of respect that Travis has for Shannon. If that were a picture that I photoshopped of Shannon kissing me would it be so disrespectful? How about all of the girls on myspace who photoshop themselves as Shannon's bride?....is that not disrespectful to Shannon, Lisa and Nico? It's all in good fun. Don't be so touchy.
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Post by blindmelon333 on Nov 13, 2006 11:40:52 GMT -5
Wow,
You really don't see anything wrong with that?!?!
you guys are unbelievable!!!
Thats so disrespectful. Please, do me a favor and change that picture.
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