blindmelon1091
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Post by blindmelon1091 on Jun 12, 2006 21:24:55 GMT -5
Ok so we all know that all BM songs are underated considering that No Rain(generally not considered to be their best song by Melonheads) was their claim to fame and the other just weren't sadly. But here's the twist...among Melonheads I also see that many of BM's songs are underated. For example many consider Change to be the best song and while it's lyrical genius cannot be denied to me I find that it is somewhat lacking musically compared to a lot of their other arrangements. Just my opinion though....and also for example-Melonheads often consider the debut album to be lyrically and musically "young" compared to their other albums but many songs on that album(particularly the last 5 or 6) have a musical and lyrical maturity as much as or if not more than Soup and Nico. So to start off the most underated song among Melonheads for me it has got to be Sleepyhouse......the lyrics on this song are genius and the arrangement is great. So, my question to you is...what is, in your opinion, the most underated BM song among Melonheads?
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Post by hightimes on Jun 12, 2006 22:17:13 GMT -5
THe most underated song is Mother and Whoa Dog (these are unofficially not on any of the major albums that they did but I love them both. I
for one believe they are all underated if you consider having critical acclaim. I remember when the first album came out I liked Dear ol Dad, and Tones of Home to songs before No Rain even was put out and those got very little attention, but since you are saying "most underated" among Melon heads I have to say Walk on the Soup album was equally as good as any of their acoustic numbers like "Mouthful", and "Change", and New Life,
I would have to say"Seed to Tree", and "soak the Sin" on the first album- (I love the fact when they played on Saturday Night Live they played the "No Rain" ripped away version, and Soak the Sin showing to the world they had great songs, and on Nico Album "John Sinclair"
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Post by foreverlights on Jun 12, 2006 22:30:14 GMT -5
Soul One by far
then followed by Sleepyhouse and Walk
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Post by verbalpocketplay on Jun 13, 2006 0:03:29 GMT -5
well the most underated 'released' song i think has to be galaxie. man the feeling you get when they go into the chorus....i play that song all the time for people when we're just hangin out (boozing and what not....) and i get responses like..'AMEN Brotha!"...."Who the hell is this?!"......especially the acoustic, man..even if it's only about a car, i think it's just well written. maybe shannon was writing it purposefuly as a song they just needed to put on the radio...who knows?
but soup or walk are songs that need attention. like they could still make videos for these. remember when brad Nowell passed they still made videos for sublime? i think they could easily do that for these songs, because they're timeless. they could release them whenever and people would still fall in love with them. and i think they should.
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blindmelon1091
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Post by blindmelon1091 on Jun 13, 2006 1:12:04 GMT -5
THe most underated song is Mother Full agreement here man...Mother is a brilliant song and should have gone alot further. Awesome idea! This should proposed and just imagine the possibilities...and as you said the songs are timeless so it's never too laye to do it.
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Post by foreverlights on Jun 13, 2006 2:04:03 GMT -5
Mother is another definitely, especially the acoustic version...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2006 8:32:10 GMT -5
Car Seat (God's Presence) - Shows their wide variety of talents. The Duke - Brilliant vocal layout... I wonder if Shannon really held that note for that long? Hell - "Shannon's own Swan Song" ~Brad Smith New Life - Along the same lines as Change. Shannon wants a new life. Not just in Nico, but in himself. Pull - Easy to groove to. Swallowed - Although the message is one of 2x4, the song is brilliant.
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Post by azrael on Jun 13, 2006 12:47:43 GMT -5
Pull - Easy to groove to. Excellent choice, I agree with that
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Post by bumcakes on Jun 13, 2006 15:30:19 GMT -5
WILT and perhaps DESERTED i've been loving those two tunes lately.
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Post by j.r. on Jun 13, 2006 23:15:32 GMT -5
Car Seat (God's Presence) - Shows their wide variety of talents. The Duke - Brilliant vocal layout... I wonder if Shannon really held that note for that long? Hell - "Shannon's own Swan Song" ~Brad Smith New Life - Along the same lines as Change. Shannon wants a new life. Not just in Nico, but in himself. Pull - Easy to groove to. Swallowed - Although the message is one of 2x4, the song is brilliant. I agree with basically all of these... also, I don't think Drive gets talked about enough...
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Post by christian12475 on Jun 14, 2006 15:40:23 GMT -5
All of you have made some very good arguements. After listening to the 1st album, I thought "No Rain" was my least liked song on the album. Soup on the other hand has no flaws. Nico is a hodge podge of songs written in the beginning , middle, and towards the end of the band. All songs are good on Nico but as for the most under-rated song is all off them but " No Rain " , all great but no air time or not enough air time. I agree with you Hightimes, Mother 1 & 2 is some of the best music & lyrically written ever and Wooh D.O.G./G.O.D. just brilliant and Shannon sings with such feeling. & Matt , I wondered if Shannon held that note that long also in The Duke.
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Post by verbalpocketplay on Jun 14, 2006 23:26:08 GMT -5
alright i'm doing this for the sake of healthy argument. which is what we need.
but when it comes to "success," that being mainstream success. what do you think it would have taken? obviously change, galaxie, tones of home, were not successful in terms of the mass public. "tones of home," i think is more like a stoner hit. "change" is a song that is easlily taken by somebody who's been through a hard time to be able to relate to, which is someting i think alot of people on this thread relate to. so try to look at it without a bias. the live shows are beautiful but i'm talking about mainsteam success which is a necessary evil. Even though melon was a little more in touch with the whole 70's groove and the whole improv thing which was made clear in their live shows, and is something i have no problem with because i love every song......but again, for the sake of healthy arguement.
so in the name of god awful, "mainstream," hit songs, what does everybody think it would take to get blind melon to sell some records? that means in todays mtv abused culture, what would it to get bm noticed? what blind melon songs would hit it big in today's society?
i don't think it would be 'mother' because it sounds too much like a pink floyd cover and if you want to push it, kinda like a gnr cover. and wooh dog is way too short for anything.
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Post by hightimes on Jun 15, 2006 0:15:08 GMT -5
Hello Melonheads,
First of all I would have to say that the attention span of mainstream music fans is so short -that would it matter to please these people. When "No Rain" made the band famous this song reached out to the wrong fans people who are close minded and are not going to make an attempt to reach out and hear more Blind Melon then just that song.
I have to say that if they would not have released the "NO Rain" video - now don't get mad at me (this was not one of there best songs, and too many people associated the band with the Bee Girl)
The song "Change" which came out I believe would have been their claim to fame (with a lot more airplay) this and would have made them be taken seriously, and they would have had the same public sentiment as Pearl Jam, and Nirvana for writing serious songs. At the time the music was filled with the same pop bullshit in the mainstream. BLind Melon was to deep for those people, there songs were diverse and the "Enertainment World" had no identity that they could peg on them. I think "No Rain" was not like everything else they did and commercially those so called fans of Pop Music were searching for something similar to that.
SO to some up what would have made them commercially a hit
(1)If they would have worked on creating an identity ("No Rain" put them in the mainstream of Bubble Gum Pop, and created an image they did not need)
(2) Give Change more airplay a song that I believe had more of chance of surviving excessive airplay (Lets face it - radio plays to much of the same song that is a hit - and people get sick of it - Change could have stood that test)
(3) I wish they would have been less diverse on the second album and put more songs like "Soul One", "Mother", "Whoo Dog" - the reviews were bad for that album and as they had the image of the Bee Girl they could not to afford to show there - laughs- depth in different styles of music.
In the End they could have been like PEarl Jam, Soundgarden if they would have kept the music simple and been less diverse.
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Post by ishbell on Jun 15, 2006 19:27:54 GMT -5
The song that seems to get the most response when I play it is Mouthful, my niece Alex who is 14 loves it and ordered the cd and has turned on a few of her friends. So I think Mouthful could have been a "mainstream" hit today with the "alternative" crowd. Though young people here listen to AIC, Tom Petty, Velvet Revolver....Joplin is big right now, so who knows
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Post by brandnewmelon on Jun 25, 2006 7:59:29 GMT -5
Uhmm I love No Biznezz!!
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