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Blur
Feb 7, 2007 19:18:41 GMT -5
Post by Bogo on Feb 7, 2007 19:18:41 GMT -5
honestly I don't think bumcakes was serious about liking them just for hot guy in it. whatever I'm done with this debate. thanks for the good points.
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Blur
Feb 7, 2007 19:34:45 GMT -5
Post by Bogo on Feb 7, 2007 19:34:45 GMT -5
well if I was in a band I wouldn't give a shit the reason someone liked my band, people come from all walks of life and they like music for all kinds of reasons you shouldn't criticize someone for having a different opinion of a reason they like the music, its their choice. Also I wasn't trying to "shoot the messenger" but they way your presenting your argument seems Illogical because you say personal taste is personal taste but then you say the reason for having their personal taste is wrong it seems to me to cancel out your acceptance of respecting their personal taste.
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Blur
Feb 7, 2007 19:39:15 GMT -5
Post by melonforthought on Feb 7, 2007 19:39:15 GMT -5
First off Shana anyone can create music... IF you read my postings you realize I am attacking the marketing of music, and how people are easily persuaded. Further to that if you read on I state that music is art, and personal preference, and what is your personal taste is your personal taste. People can like whatever they want and I am not making a statement on that. My statement is give me more reasons to say why a band is good besides there image, and I will say oh ok, I should check them out. Furthermore I said there is a lot of music I don't like, but I understand why other people like them cause they made music that was written well, and had substance to it. I made a generalization on people liking music that is well marketed as retarded if it was taken as a personal attack on Briady as you say then I will remodify. IT IS ONLY A GENERALIZATION ON MUSIC OF TODAY. At least when you read my posts read them, and don't take them as personal attacks. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Blur
Feb 7, 2007 19:45:40 GMT -5
Post by melonforthought on Feb 7, 2007 19:45:40 GMT -5
Well of course Bogo you can like an artist on image. I mean I guarantee people will still buy KFeds albums, and people still buy Blind Melon albums because of the Bee Girl, I am just saying that it isn't a good reason, and if you are telling people to check them out then you should give us reasons why to like them. If i want u for example to check my buddys band or someone I heard I am going to say check out these guys cause they are good and not say check out Evanescence cause she is hot. Anyways Blind Melon fans on here are more sensible, and the argument is about the minority of people who defend liking music on such fallacious reasons is absurd and I don't buy that. In the end this is not a personal attack on people, there music taste, and now I wil add not an attack on the reasons they like the music - Merely an opinion and please take it as that Just to let everyone know I won't be buying Kiss Memorbillia anytime soon
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Blur
Feb 7, 2007 19:52:05 GMT -5
Post by foreverlights on Feb 7, 2007 19:52:05 GMT -5
I am going to apologise for my comments on the band Blur, because Shana put forward a good point that people like music for their own reasons and it is not my place to tell them what to like or dislike... You never know, Blind Melon isnt perfect, so people have their reasons for not liking them too, just like we have our reasons for liking them...
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Blur
Feb 7, 2007 19:53:44 GMT -5
Post by melonforthought on Feb 7, 2007 19:53:44 GMT -5
Please Shana stop starting fights your the only one who is taking this stuff personally which I am attacking the methods in which people are being persuaded, and marketed into liking music. I am talking about all the new wave British music that came along with the pop music in the states during the mid 90's. This has to do more with music that is marketed which for me to write all the music that is marketed would be all day. Once again I was only talking about Blur, Oasis, Take That, and any other "British shit" this makes no reference to any other british music, and further to that this about the music that is heavily marketed. Also as I stated this is not a personal attack if all my arguments don't make sense to you than I am sorry, though I think others still understand them
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Blur
Feb 7, 2007 20:11:58 GMT -5
Post by melonforthought on Feb 7, 2007 20:11:58 GMT -5
Hey Shana my statement for hating Blur is alot better than the reasons people put for liking them. I just finished listening to a bunch of there songs, and I can't see how they like them. I don't make arguments I just say give me better reasons in liking them besides there image, and you start attacking me, becauses i can state an opinion I am sorry I can't have an opinion and somehow my opinion becomes an argument. It only became an argument when I defended my reasons for not liking them. You are a million times more intolerant than me, because I am only asking people tell me the reasons (besides image) why you like a band and then I will at least get what they are talking about. If someone can't ask the reasons why someone likes something then what an awful world we live in.
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bumcakes
The Pusher
I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there.
Posts: 179
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Blur
Feb 7, 2007 20:22:11 GMT -5
Post by bumcakes on Feb 7, 2007 20:22:11 GMT -5
lol... cor blimey! I was half joking about liking blur because i fancy the lead singer. Its true, i do fancy the lead singer... but thats not why i like them. I never said they were amazing, but they're not shit either. Besides... who says well marketed music can't be good music?? A good tunes a good tune... right? Whatever. Oh and by the way... what first interested me about Blind Melon wasn't just Shannon's amazingly unique voice... it was his ravishing good looks too #hump# Enough said? I'm glad we all agree.
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verbalpocketplay
Porcupine
and that's why i can't buy dog food for you no more
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Blur
Feb 7, 2007 22:52:32 GMT -5
Post by verbalpocketplay on Feb 7, 2007 22:52:32 GMT -5
i agree with melonforthought.
did i miss something? is elva's real name shana or did the actual shana post here but then delete her posts?
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Blur
Feb 7, 2007 22:54:11 GMT -5
Post by Bogo on Feb 7, 2007 22:54:11 GMT -5
yeah she posted at least once, but I guess she deleted them
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Blur
Feb 7, 2007 23:39:28 GMT -5
Post by shanamelon on Feb 7, 2007 23:39:28 GMT -5
I deleted my posts because I don't want to be part of this anymore.
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Blur
Feb 8, 2007 0:00:45 GMT -5
Post by Bogo on Feb 8, 2007 0:00:45 GMT -5
you should have just left them and stopped posting at least then other people who read this thread will know where you stand. I guess it doesn't really matter.
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Blur
Feb 9, 2007 12:53:17 GMT -5
Post by Gabbee on Feb 9, 2007 12:53:17 GMT -5
ughhh, what the hell just happened here Back in Brazil I used to love Song 2, but havent heard anything else by them I dont think? I agree with Bums though, the singer is cute And Colin, I love you man, but I think no one has to justify why they like anything... Sometimes there's no explanation, you just do! And plus, Bogo wasnt trying to convince anyone to check them out, he merely asked if there were any other fans around. Usually when I feel a strong dislike for a band that gets posted here I just avoid the thread
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Blur
Feb 9, 2007 16:09:18 GMT -5
Post by *Sonya* on Feb 9, 2007 16:09:18 GMT -5
As much as I dislike pop music, I have to admit that "Song 2" and "Girls and Boys" or "Boys and Girls" or whatever that song was called were catchy as hell. I've seen them live (I went for the opening band, not for Blur) and in my opinion they were just ok. I feel like I gave them an honest chance and they didn't win me over. I sat through their entire set mostly bored until the VERY END when they decided to close the show with the two songs I previously mentioned. If I hadn't been waiting to hear those two songs I would have left in the middle of the show. Hey, at least they have two catchy radio songs so they can't be labeled as one hit wonders. When "Song 2" comes on the radio I listen to it and don't change the station...it gets stuck in my head for the next week too.
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Blur
Feb 9, 2007 16:23:07 GMT -5
Post by melonforthought on Feb 9, 2007 16:23:07 GMT -5
Hey Gabbee, I totally get that and yea I guess more than anything it was in regards to Bums saying the lead singer was hot, and my argument/opinion was just that you can't justify why a band is good by that reason. Though I realize people can like a band regardless of what they think of the music if they are attracted to the band by other reasons such as image. Times are just different and the artists I respect that came from every period of the last century were not people who were into selling gimmicks to people. My other argument was that a well marketed band doesn't make them good, and thats why I was telling people about how nation wide record stations have deals with recording companies to play there music. I guess I am going beyond what other people think of music, but to me I have had, and still have friends that are in small indie bands and they are great, and don't need millions of dollars or exploited egos, and marketing to sell them, cause they are good on their own. Therefore I went over the top in my first post, but cleared it up all in the last one saying Simply ... Don't justify good music on other strageties of marketing or image or any of that, and if a band has something to offer we will hear it with our ears...Now back to my dark cave
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