Keith
Porcupine
We Don't Mind Being Blind
the melon formerly known as peanutsinapile
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Post by Keith on Nov 20, 2006 1:56:02 GMT -5
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Post by foreverlights on Nov 20, 2006 7:20:58 GMT -5
I will admit i said some comments against the reformation, but people change and in 10 months i have changed... back then all members of the band were involved with other projects with Brad and Chris producing, Rogers with TTT and Glen with the Meek, and there was absolutely no reformation in sight... also the people putting forward their statements were demanding the reformation even though the band members were doing other things which they, i imagine, were content and happy doing...
No one on this forum or anywhere in the world could not have seen this reformation coming from a mile off, so i was defending the band members and didnt want to see them forced into reforming for the sake of a few Melonheads... My comments were only hyperthetical as i said back then s someone said back then, it was a what if question, now it is reality and i have different thoughts on it now... Also i would never think that someone could have fitted the gap left by Shannon, and to my shock after listening to the new tunes, and listening to Travis' stuff beforehand, i was totally wrong... This person also put Jena Kraus as No. 1 pick for the singing role, which definitely rubbed me the wrong way, as the thought still does... And back then in February, the whole forum was on the same wave length, you notice that it was only one person who chose to start name-calling when he didnt get his answers, his way, and cause negativity... This is the same situation here ... it is as if you are destroying the moment...
mouthfulofcavaties and stickstr8thruyou you guys have made less than ten posts combined, so i found it quite insulting that you would come in without bothering to get to know your fellow melonheads, without introducing yourselves and hide behind your "opinions"... If you arent interesting in getting to know fellow melonheads, im not going to bother wasting my time with you and your "opinions"... i have no respect for that...
i did not know back then that the bad wanted to keep the name now, and how was i supposed to know, i am a fan and why should the band listen to one fan's opinions... my job back then was to show respect, protect and keep the memory of Blind Melon alive, my job now is to support this reality of the reformation of Blind Melon, it is no longer memories we are guarding... Sure i am a hypocrite, ive admitted it a few times, but if you wanna be dickheads a spoil the moment, nick off and find somewhere else and someone else to whine to... You are just afraid to change... and you are ruining the moment... Move on...
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Post by waltermelon on Nov 20, 2006 7:28:02 GMT -5
I will admit i said some comments against the reformation, but people change and in 10 months i have changed... back then all members of the band were involved with other projects with Brad and Chris producing, Rogers with TTT and Glen with the Meek, and there was absolutely no reformation in sight... also the people putting forward their statements were demanding the reformation even though the band members were doing other things which they, i imagine, were content and happy doing... No one on this forum or anywhere in the world could not have seen this reformation coming from a mile off, so i was defending the band members and didnt want to see them forced into reforming for the sake of a few Melonheads... My comments were only hyperthetical as i said back then s someone said back then, it was a what if question, now it is reality and i have different thoughts on it now... Also i would never think that someone could have fitted the gap left by Shannon, and to my shock after listening to the new tunes, and listening to Travis' stuff beforehand, i was totally wrong... This person also put Jena Kraus as No. 1 pick for the singing role, which definitely rubbed me the wrong way, as the thought still does... And back then in February, the whole forum was on the same wave length, you notice that it was only one person who chose to start name-calling when he didnt get his answers, his way, and cause negativity... This is the same situation here ... it is as if you are destroying the moment... mouthfulofcavaties and stickstr8thruyou you guys have made less than ten posts combined, so i found it quite insulting that you would come in without bothering to get to know your fellow melonheads, without introducing yourselves and hide behind your "opinions"... If you arent interesting in getting to know fellow melonheads, im not going to bother wasting my time with you and your "opinions"... i have no respect for that... i did not know back then that the bad wanted to keep the name now, and how was i supposed to know, i am a fan and why should the band listen to one fan's opinions... my job back then was to show respect, protect and keep the memory of Blind Melon alive, my job now is to support this reality of the reformation of Blind Melon, it is no longer memories we are guarding... Sure i am a hypocrite, ive admitted it a few times, but if you wanna be dickheads a spoil the moment, nick off and find somewhere else and someone else to whine to... You are just afraid to change... and you are ruining the moment... Move on... cool post
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Post by linwoodlarsons on Nov 20, 2006 8:20:31 GMT -5
I totally agree, but lets not get this "whole mess" going again. If nobody touches this thread, it will die just like the "what Rogers said..." one did. There's no sense in going round 'n round with this asgain. It's not gonna change anything.
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Post by *Sonya* on Nov 20, 2006 10:13:15 GMT -5
You are correct that you are expressing the same opinions that long-time members of this forum posted months ago (prior to having any inkling of a reformation mind you), but please consider it from this viewpoint: When an onslaught of negativity busted into this forum a couple of weeks ago it was a 180 from the peaceful vibe that had been maintained here for a LONG time. If you notice, nobody was hating on each other in that thread...everyone was just expressing opinions and having a civilized discussion. I guess now is when I need to throw in that I was completely for the four living members of Blind Melon reuniting...the only negative thing I said is that it might be cheesy with a new singer...obviously I don't feel that way now that I've heard Travis. My sentiment was that they should have never stopped making music together and my fantasy was that they would go on as an instrumental group or with Brad on vocals.
I think what it all boils down to was bad timing for a bunch of new members to come into this forum and all start expressing negativity so strongly...it wasn't so much about expressing opinions, it was more about keeping the peace. The message that we were trying to get across to the new members is that there is a positive way and a negative way to express an opinion...I know that not all of the newbies resorted to name calling...but you have to understand why you were thrown up in the same category with those who were. Like I said, it was keeping the peace.
There is a sort of unspoken etiquette that the long-time members of this forum abide by...trying to respect each other and their opinions (regardless of who has the highest or lowest post count). That 6 month old discussion that is being rehashed took place over a period of time...it wasn't like this situation where a whole bunch of negativity takes over the forum in one day.
My advice is that all of you that feel like you have been wronged...please stick around and continue to read what goes on here. Get a feel for how this forum works. I promise you it's most likely not like any other forum you've ever posted in. This board is always evolving and I think that the common goal that we all share right now is to try to keep this place respectful and positive. Good communication skills are essential...if you approach topics in an aggressive or defensive way then things spiral downward from there. I'm not perfect and nobody else here is either, but we should all try to respect each other and keep this a nice place for melonheads to connect with each other.
There are plenty of other Blind Melon forums out there...the band chose this one to be the official forum for a reason. I implore you to check out the other forums out there and see how they run things...maybe one of those will be a better fit for you. Maybe you will find that this is the place you would rather be. I don't know if the new members realize this, but this forum existed for a long time before it became the official forum. It has only been within the past month that it has been made official. The staff at this forum is having to deal with an influx in activity. The membership has pretty much doubled in the past few weeks. As things get bigger it's even more important for all of us to act like adults.
All of this "calling each other out" business needs to stop. It reminds me of my two sons tattling on each other constantly. It's non-productive and aggravating. It seems to me like waltermelon said his "I told you so" and it should stop there. We don't need to drag this through the mud any longer.
None of the staff here wants to censor anyone. I think everyone would prefer that from this point on we all try to get along.
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Post by Meredith on Nov 20, 2006 10:18:07 GMT -5
#yes# Thanks for that Sonya! I couldn't agree more.
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Post by Barbara on Nov 20, 2006 12:53:27 GMT -5
Very well said sonya, thank you.
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Post by fi4208 on Nov 20, 2006 13:17:10 GMT -5
Ok so you dont want any "negativity" on this board. Im not sure how many of you live in a democracy, but in a democracy even "negative" opinions get heard, no matter how negative they are. If you start to refuse to hear "negative" opinions you live in a fantasy world of unicorns and elves. I love how Gelfling told me to stop spreading my negativity, when all I did was repost something that Rogers said. So do you think if the news that they reunited with a new singer had come out at the time of that poll, they would still be "sellouts"? I dont doubt Travis' ability to sing, or to be a great frontman....but jesus get real, the guy is not Shannon Hoon and he never will be.
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Post by *Sonya* on Nov 20, 2006 13:43:46 GMT -5
When somebody is having a party and everybody is having a great time do you walk up in the party and shout out "This party sucks!" Sure it's a free country and you can say what you like, but you're attitude brings everyone down. That's what I mean about respect...it's just not cool to be the person raining on the parade. Does that make sense?
It's great that you feel such a love for Shannon...there is an entire section of this forum dedicated to Shannon Hoon. I'm sure there are a lot of people who would love to talk about Shannon with you. You can keep posting about how you don't think Travis is as good as Shannon, but you aren't going to change the way other people feel about Travis who like him....at least not in this section of the forum. All you are doing in this thread is being an instigator and it should have been made clear by now that instigators are not welcome. We are well aware of your opinion about Travis and the reunion...
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Post by Gabbee on Nov 20, 2006 13:45:13 GMT -5
Nor is he TRYING or being expected to be Shannon. I think what is not clear to a lot of people is that we are not looking for another Shannon Hoon, we are simply looking for someone who can do him justice, and Travis can!
But whatever, I think it's already become clear that we are all an opinionated bunch and arguing about this is just pointless, so here's my question to those of you who have come here and are against the reunion and posted about nothing but this issue so far (and please note I am NOT being hateful, just really want to understand whats going on)... What exactly do you guys want with these posts? I mean, sure you'd like to express your opinion, which you have. Now we all know how you all feel, so what does dragging this subject on and on add to this board or to any of us? Why dont you guys post on other threads around to get to know the other melons, or on the Shannon Hoon section of this board? You dont have to listen to the new songs, you don't even have to read these threads where we are talking about them... So why are we still arguing about this? I dont get it? How old are we, fucking 2? Come on, life is short... stick to the things that make you happy instead of wasting your life bitching about everything else...
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Post by fi4208 on Nov 20, 2006 14:29:59 GMT -5
Ok...heres something positive...I love Blind Melon circa 1992. I bet if I came in here like some mindless sheep and started agreeing with everyone in here youd love me. But because Im an instigator, Im unwelcome. We are starting a new forum, called people who arent hypocrits and love Blind Melon, the real Blind Melon. None of you sissys are invited, how about that for a party?
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Post by Meredith on Nov 20, 2006 14:34:07 GMT -5
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Post by *Sonya* on Nov 20, 2006 14:42:16 GMT -5
Check out my signature...I also love Blind Melon circa 1992...that's me in the picture with the band. Just because you've liked the band for a long time doesn't mean you would be a sheep for liking the new band. Where have you been up until a week ago? You certainly weren't in this forum participating with other fans who have kept Blind Melon's memory alive. This forum has been preserving a love for Blind Melon since long before a reunion had been conceived. It's a shame you hadn't found us then, maybe then you would be a little more understanding of how much the people who post here DO and HAVE loved Blind Melon with and without Shannon.
We would love you if you talked about your love for the music...what we don't love is your nasty attitude. You have been invited to participate in other areas of the forum where you could focus your energy on your love for the old Blind Melon. Instead you would rather hang out in this thread and call people "sissys" and "hypocrits". You have exposed your true colors and why you are really here...to voice your displeasure with the reunion. You received a little bit of attention so hopefully you'll be satisified. Good luck with your new forum! I think you'll enjoy having a little place on the internet where you will be in charge of the rules.
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~*KiwiMelon*~
The Pusher
*~Under a sun that's seen it all before...~*
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Post by ~*KiwiMelon*~ on Nov 20, 2006 15:10:11 GMT -5
some things never change... There are always those that disagree with the majority, and that's fine, it's when the argument gets nasty that things take a bad turn. But if they want to make their own forum for like-minded people then good on them. personally I don't want to be invited because I happen to like This party But I hope they have fun and I wish them well and Sonyagirl...I hate you. Just kidding! hehe I'm just jealous because you met the band and I didn't...come here and let me suck your brains and steal your memories neeuuuu neeeeuuuu neeuuuu neeuuuu look into the liiiiiight you may end up looking like this guy
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Post by Meredith on Nov 20, 2006 15:17:26 GMT -5
Leave me a little brain juice, lol. On a more serious side, I really think the arguments need to end. If you don't like it here then I am sorry. If you wish to create your own place then good for you. I am tired of this whole mess and Its time to move on and have fun, have some good discussions, joke around, make friends, and talk about Blind Melon, past, present, and future.
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