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Post by Gabbee on Nov 11, 2008 22:07:12 GMT -5
Wow... I just got to read this whole thread as well...
Honestly, it really hurt my feelings that people who MET ME IN PERSON and got to hang out with me during one of the most amazing weeks of my life would actually think that I would be keeping something this special from the community if it was even an option (same is true for all the other mods). You people obviously don't know me at all...
Cody, I know you have some of those songs on your iPod that you burnt from Matt's radio shows. Good or bad, you have some of them and that wouldn't have been possible if Matt hadn't made them available. You should be thankful, he didn't have to do that.
I don't know, I just get the feeling you were trying to stir the pot... Start negativity. I hope I'm wrong, maybe you and Jayson just expressed yourselves badly. Either way, I agree with Ryan... If someone here has something left to say, and it isn't very nice, PLEASE take it to PM's.
How about we look on the bright side and enjoy what Matt managed to share instead of hurting for what is not available? It won't help your cause at all, like I said, it's not an option.
Trust me, the day we get word that we can circulate it I bet Staff will take the time to make 3,089 copies and send it to every last member.
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Post by Hoonaholic on Nov 11, 2008 22:09:26 GMT -5
Ive sat back and watched this week unfold because i didnt wanna stir any more arguement, but this is something that ate me up inside... Now i see why you came back to the forum Cody, your true motives... dont think i dont remember why u got banned in the first place (threatening physical harm to Matt and such), so dont try to suck up and hide your true colours from members who were not around back then... by making these statements you are being disrespectful to the mods (who deserve all our respect) and foremost the band.... from my knowledge the sessions were recorded during Soup, as demos for that album, and hence OWNED BY THE BAND... they can do what they wish with it, make as much money they wish from it, and you are taking it for granted because youre forgetting you have at least heard it the whole way through once, (and probably a bunch more times), and im sorry your statements are EXTREMELY GREEDY... most would kill to hear what you have heard, but we are respectful enough to all involved to wait for the band to act upon it... and also i know the extent that you protested against Travis gettin into the band, you were essentially the leader tryin to stop it from happening and you paid out on him, yet now you suck up to him, you are SO inconsistant dude, "bi-polar" as someone said earlier... its obvious dude, knowing your history on this forum... i expect fire from you now Cody but seriously nothin you say is gonna matter a cent to me, im just venting so its okay what i say (using JaYsoN's analogy).... and nothing you said means shit to me so we are even
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Post by Hoonaholic on Nov 11, 2008 22:11:50 GMT -5
Wow... I just got to read this whole thread as well... Honestly, it really hurt my feelings that people who MET ME IN PERSON and got to hang out with me during one of the most amazing weeks of my life would actually think that I would be keeping something this special from the community if it was even an option (same is true for all the other mods). You people obviously don't know me at all... Cody, I know you have some of those songs on your iPod that you burnt from Matt's radio shows. Good or bad, you have some of them and that wouldn't have been possible if Matt hadn't made them available. You should be thankful, he didn't have to do that. I don't know, I just get the feeling you were trying to stir the pot... Start negativity. I hope I'm wrong, maybe you and Jayson just expressed yourselves badly. Either way, I agree with Ryan... If someone here has something left to say, and it isn't very nice, PLEASE take it to PM's. How about we look on the bright side and enjoy what Matt managed to share instead of hurting for what is not available? It won't help your cause at all, like I said, it's not an option. Trust me, the day we get word that we can circulate it I bet Staff will take the time to make 3,089 copies and send it to every last member. GABBEE HUN I WASNT SAYING YOU WOULDNT, I KNOW YOU WOULD! I WAS JUST ASKING QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED AND THAT I HAVE WONDER IS ALL, I DIDNT SAY THAT ANYONE WAS BETTER THEN ANYONE ELSE, I WAS JUST SIMPLY STATED THAT NO ONE WAS! IM SORRY EVERYONE ASSUMED THAT I WAS SAYING THAT YOU GUYS THOUGHT YOU WERE, I KNOW YA'LL DONT, I WAS JUST SAYING, EVERYBODY MISS UNDERSTOOD, I LOVE YOU GABBEE AND YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT! Ya'll I was just wondering, i shouldnt be afraid to ask a question, thats all i was doing, THATS ALL, i was just wondering is all, THIS ALL SHOULD HAVE BEEN DEAD WHEN MATT REPLYED TO ME! I RESPECT MATT AND I BELIEVE HE WOULD NOT LIE TO ME! I WAS JUST ASKING QUESTIONS THATS ALL! THANK YOU MATT FOR BEING HONEST I KNOW YOU ARE JUST DOING WHAT THE BAND ASKED. AND I WAS JUST ASKING IS ALL. THANK YOU AGAIN MATT.
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Post by Meredith on Nov 12, 2008 5:57:46 GMT -5
I just got the chance to read this, wow.
Anyway I just want to say that its been tearing me up not to be able to share this with everyone. So bad that I honestly listened to it a handful of times. Regardless, I made a promise to a friend that I wouldn't share it for very important reasons. I hold pride in myself for being trustworthy to my friends and being able to keep a secret when I am asked. So I did. I think I did the right thing. Staff doesn't get a whole lot of perks for running this forum. Its a labor of love. We don't get paid for this, we run this forum because we love Blind Melon and because we want a good place for Melonheads to come to. Sometimes its really stressful, especially dealing with stuff like this. Overall this forum means so much to us that its all worth it.
We have a feature on this forum called Private Messaging, if you ever have a question for forum staff we would be happy to answer you directly. Sometimes this can help to avoid any unnecessary drama on the forum. If you have any questions about how to use the Private Message feature please let me know, I am always happy to help.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2008 18:20:26 GMT -5
Yea.I sent them a message a few months ago. I want to say really early this year. It was after I sent Nel a message. Maybe they discussed it more after the fact. I've never spoken to any of them directly, so I can not say they aren't going to. I'm just going by a quick message.
It was in July. i still have it in my inbox.
"Hey Jason
thanks for the kind words....
I doubt we'll officially release anymore of that stuff. Most of it is out there via torrents etc, and the quality is such that we don't feel good about asking people to pay for it. There may be the occasional track that will pop up as we find them.....
b. melon"
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Post by VintageMelon on Nov 12, 2008 23:25:19 GMT -5
When EVER has there been an issue with people sharing BM's music? I remember having NOTHING way back and a girl named Stephanie Vit from the vigil (who at the time I'd not yet met) dubbed my very 1st BM show I&I from Canada. I'd never seen the band live. She did it out of the goodness of her heart. Most of my boots have been from kind strangers within our community. No one has the right to bash, question, get pissed at, or rudely treat ANYONE, mods, members, the band, over music that isn't shared. Has anyone bitching considered the fact that maybe some of the music is still too painful for the band to share? Have we thought about how hard it must be for them to find a tape, cd, recording of any kind and realize it's something uncirculated? Nel can barely stand listening anytime other than the vigil. The guys must feel similar at least at times. I think the mods on here are kind, helpful, hell, they come right out and do whatever they can to welcome us into the Forum family. Once upon a time, none of us had anything...it was all new. Let's rejoice in what we have and knowing that someday soon there are some untapped recordings that will make us laugh, cry, dance, revel in being a BM fan all over again. Thank you Mere, Matt, Sonya, Gabbee, Barb, and Ryan for making this place the best BM spot on the web. Thank you Rogers, Brad, CT, Glen, and Shannon for making the music that makes us feel fine and giving us music to look forward to. Let's just chill out and Blind Melon is a band... #hoonsmiley# Blind Melon Forum kicks ass! Blind Melon fans are family!
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Post by cloudy on Nov 13, 2008 9:07:07 GMT -5
There would be NO forum w/out the moderators..who do this for free, on their own time - taking time way from their families, jobs, etc., because they love the band and want TO HELP ALL OF US TO FEEL CLOSER TO BLIND MELON! If anyone deserves any freebies (not that they get many) - it's them, and I could never begrudge them that! In fact, they should get MORE.
I respect the band's descison to do whatever, whenever w/ whatever music, and who gets what $ is NOT MY BUSINESS now nor will it ever be.
None of us are "entitled" to anything - regarding the band or Shannon, no matter how much we feel we love any of them. The band has been thru Hell and put blood, sweat and tears into their music/lives for years and years and if in their hearts they want to keep Shannon's music sacred and private - it's THEIR choice and none of us can know the emotion that's wrapped up in that decision for them or for Shannon's family.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2008 21:58:48 GMT -5
Sorry, I didn't read the entire thread before I posted what I did. I didn't realize there was stuff out there that was only share amongst a select lucky few. I hope I didn't step on anyone's toes in doing so. I'm too new to piss anyone off.
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Post by jambeatnik on Nov 18, 2008 18:35:56 GMT -5
I got the cd a couple of years ago. I shared it with the staff. When I heard that they may be releasing some of the songs on the CD, I was asked not to circulate it. If the band decides not to release the CD, or gives me permission to circulate it, I'll post a torrent for it. The band didn't know that I even received the CD until I told them a year later... So, this has nothing to do with them, and there is nothing "fishy" about it. We don't think we're better than anyone else. it still isn't fair that select people receive the albums and others who have just as much love and appreciation for shannon do not... this just goes to show that it is not all about the music bc if it was it would be released immediately... i've been waiting my entire life to listen to anything and everything, no matter the quality, that shannon has done and it is completely unfair and a turnoff that I have to wait for it to be released, or wait for you to receive permission to release, especially when there is no foreseeable timetable for its release... it's torture, it really is... music should be shared... shannon's music should be shared... fans who have stuck with the band and waited patiently alreadly for 13 years, should not have to deal with this - as in, oh there's all this unreleased stuff but oh you have to wait until we're ready to release it blah blah blah... it's been way too long already... blind melon should have released this stuff a long time ago... if anything it would benefit them even more because it would completely close this shannon chapter and allow them to truly move on to new music and a new generation of fans loving blind melon and whichever vocalist they choose to move on with
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Post by jambeatnik on Nov 18, 2008 18:46:15 GMT -5
Believe me, there have been plenty of times when I wish I didn't have it because I want to be able to share it with other melonheads. However, I have to keep my word. I would do the same for you if I made you a promise. We are not the bad guys here. I'm sorry if you can't see that. Don't forget, Nel has it too. Matt gave it to her. When Nel played it for you at Vigil, it was because of Matt. Are you making negative opinions about Nel because she hasn't burned you a copy? I don't think so, but you are making negative opinions about Staff because we haven't burned any copies. You want to talk about fair, well that's not fair. Please don't form negative opinions about us because we have something that we have made a promise to keep to ourselves until it is released. This whole thing is bullshit... "plenty of times that you wish you didn't have it because you wanted to share it"... that is total bullshit... lemonade is 100% correct... it's injustice that a select few people, when they are feeling down or just want to hear shannon , get to throw this album on and listen, while other people, who have already waited 13 years for the band to release all the numerous amounts of unreleased shit, have to wait even longer... i hate to say this but matt, i think you made a mistake by even admitting its existence.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2008 18:55:34 GMT -5
Yep, you're right. I should have never shared this CD with anyone, or even told these few songs exsisted.
Please remember, none of the members, of Blind Melon, gave me this VERY SHORT cd. They have nothing to do with it. I've already played 3 songs on the radio show.
Give it some time... Let the DVD be released. After that, if the band doesn't plan to release anything, I'll burn copies for each and every one of you guys.
But, again...you're right. I should have never told anyone that I had a few rare songs that were uncirculated. Shame on me... And shame on me for even sharing a few songs with all of you. I don't know what I was thinking.
PS - No, it's not total bullshit about the others not wanting to share the CD. They are dying to share the CD. They are just respecting what I was told to respect... and, that is NOT CIRCULATING it. Don't get pissed at the other mods. If you have a problem about all of this, Private Message ME... not the others.
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Post by jambeatnik on Nov 18, 2008 19:06:40 GMT -5
i'm simply saying it's bullshit to say that they are dying to share it with everyone when in fact they can listen to it whenever they want... if they were dying to share it they would share it! it's that simple... i don't understand why rogers or whoever told you not to circulate it if the band had nothing to do with it... people will pay whatever amount of money for it just to hear it now... look, it's just very frustrating to finally have heard about this songs, and then be told that I cannot have them, despite the fact that we have all given it some time... it has been 13 years since shannon died... if it was going to come out, it would have come out by now... and now that we all know of its existence, you say give it more time - which I may add is only for the band to decide if they plan on releasing it. Meanwhile, we sit, twiddle our thumbs, watch the years pile up, and still do not get to listen to all shannon had to offer... look the fact is there is a very limited catelogue of shannon hoon music... i think everyone just deserves to hear everything he did without any constraints
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2008 19:17:56 GMT -5
Well, sorry!
Call Nel Hoon. She has a copy. She'll tell you the same thing.
Also, I'll talk with the band members very soon and ask if I can share it (again). If they say "yes", and if the people who are producing the new DVD say "yes", I'll share it.
If anyone is mad at me for this, so be it.
I wish I could just give everyone my entire collection of stuff. Please respect the fact that I can't right now. Is that too much to ask?
Another thing I was thinking was making small clips of each song available for everyone. But, I'm sure that will stir the pot more... So, I'm not going to. I'll just get the same bullshit, from the few fans, that just can't actually wait... patiently.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2008 19:26:15 GMT -5
Also, as a Blind Melon fanatic, and a SUPER Shannon fanatic, I'd be very excited to know that there is actually MORE out there and that I would get a chance to hear it sometime. I'd wait 10 more years, happy and excited, that I'll be able to hear more stuff...
That's just the kind of fan I am.
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Post by melondew on Nov 18, 2008 21:01:49 GMT -5
This doesn't seem like rocket science to me. Let me make it REEEEAAAL SIIIIMMPLLLLE for those of you having a tough time with this: Step 1 - Matt got the songs; Step 2 - He shared the songs before he knew that he couldn't; Step 3 - He found out he couldn't share the songs; Step 4 - He ceased and desisted sharing the songs; Whew!!!! That was TOUGH!!!! And now there's people who are taking it out on him that he can't share the songs even though it isn't his decision or in his control. And they're taking it out on other people he shared it with, who also did not make said decision and also do not have control over it. Do you people see how completely fucking stupid this is? I understand your desperation, but you're pointing your patriot missles at the wrong countries. Open your fucking eyes, realize all these people do for us and chill the fuck out!!!!!!! If it weren't for this forum or these mods you wouldn't have half the older Blind Melon rarities you have to listen to now, and most importantly you wouldn't have NEW BLIND MELON. The band has repeatedly stated the relevance of this forum to their reformation. Think about that next time you wanna bitch about a handful of songs you can't listen to. Yet. Sincerely fucking please.
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