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Post by Barbara on Jan 30, 2006 10:39:19 GMT -5
woow, that's sooo magic! #weird#
It's obvious that this guy has a problem with anything that has to do with progress, change and evolution; he wants to keep the site as it is forever, in justifing his choice he mentions that other memebers moved on after the band broke up as if it wouldn't be normal or a right thing to do and the evolution of his personality also seems to be stoped quite a long time ago... I think there's no sense in dealing with someone like this. I agree that blindmelon.com would be really nice and the best name for the site of the band but it's not worth of all of this nerves, time and energy...especialy when it dosen't seem to work at all...I'd like to know what Rogers thinks about all of this, I hope they'll make another site and as Boba said, maybe they could get the name later...and if not it's also ok, as long as the band and the music live on...
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Post by Gabbee on Jan 31, 2006 3:52:59 GMT -5
Omg are you SHITTING me? ? Lame Mark, fucking LAME! To think that I used to go to the board over at bm.com DAILY and had that bastard's back every time any arguments popped up... How can he even sit there and act like the website is better off with him than with the BAND MEMBERS! Honestly, he has to be fucking around with us... do we have RETARDS stamped on our foreheads? Yeah, I say another domain would be awesome, although I cant deal with the fact that he's going to keep that one... It would please me very much to see this issue taken to court and have the website taken from him, but I realize it's too much trouble. Oh man, some people frustrate me so much!
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Post by Marika on Jan 31, 2006 9:47:06 GMT -5
That is absurd This guy is so stubborn (as hard as a child....) I think that he wants to keep the domain only for his personal principle, certainly I don't think he cares about the current state of the website and also he wouldn't update it for long time.... He want to keep the website for himself and he don't want to give it back to the rightful owners for caprice!
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Post by Meredith on Feb 1, 2006 6:15:34 GMT -5
I want to do more to be honest, I don't want to take this lying down, I went in to this whole thing thinking this is my chance to help give something back to a band that has given me so much. I dont even know where to go from here.
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woohlemonade
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I hate the word 'hippy.' I hate a lot of people, and hippies don't do that
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Post by woohlemonade on Feb 1, 2006 7:06:03 GMT -5
To me, just from scanning this thread, I think it's obvious that this doesn't really care about the melon or their fans because I would do everything in my power to make shure the surviving members could do as they wished, especailly since they want to include photos and music and stuff that no one's ever heard?! Only an idiot or a selfish poseur without a clue would deny himself, let alone all the melonheads in the world this oportunity. I wish that there was more that I could do than just sit here and hope it works out for the best. Damn. Much love Melonheads.
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woohlemonade
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I hate the word 'hippy.' I hate a lot of people, and hippies don't do that
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Post by woohlemonade on Feb 1, 2006 7:07:31 GMT -5
This guy, I mean. This "guy" doesn't really care about the Melon. Not enough sleep. To much coffee. Cheers.
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Post by Barbara on Feb 4, 2006 23:26:20 GMT -5
... this is my chance to help give something back to a band that has given me so much. That's true. But seeing his reactions I don't know if there's a way to change his mind unless taking him to court. this guy really stinks #throwup#
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Post by Meredith on Feb 15, 2006 15:08:49 GMT -5
Apparently Mark doesnt like that fact that I have informed you all of his response regarding our request. Today I received an email that states: I think we all had the right to know how he felt regarding this, and I guess that means he is aware of our forum, so Mark.... if you read this post I will not post any more of your Email's, I had no idea you were aware of our forum, please register and explain to the fans of Blind Melon your feelings regarding the subject.
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Post by Ryan on Feb 15, 2006 20:12:45 GMT -5
Even though I think this petition was a very good idea, it might have run its course. I don't want to end the effort, I would just like to get some brainstorming going about what our options are. And obviously these are all options and suggestions that we could pass along to Rogers, unless someone has the time and money to be the benefactor and take on the creation of the new site on their own. So here's what I would like to do - Let's discuss what the options are. Some people have mentioned litigation, which I think might be out of the question. I know that I don't have the money to pay a lawyer, and I don't even know what kind of legal grounds we have against Mark anyway. Beyond that I don't see too many options of convincing this dude to see our viewpoint. I think another option would be to purchase a unique url that is similar to blindmelon.com. We could actually use "metatags" within the html code to steer people towards the official site. When you type serch terms into Google or Yahoo, they search the metatags from the world wide web, not necessarily the name of the url. There are many companies that have missed the opportunity to purchase their straight name for their url address, but they use metatags to let their customers know that "this" is the "official" site. When companies realize that someone else has bought the rights to their url name, and the owner does not want to sell, do you think that those companies just wait around for permission to do business on a website? No they look at what their options are and figure out what the best option is. I'm not saying that we are in business, but I am saying that we mean business. We shouldn't let these things stop us. The one thing that Mark could never use for his site is the word "official". If Mark ever called his site the "official" blind melon site, then Blind Melon/Capitol Records could easily sue him and win. But litigation is not my point. My point is that the remaining members of the band have much more of a right to use that "official" tag than Mark does. When people searched Google, they would probably see the "official" site as one of the top five returns from their search. I think more often than not, people are looking for the official site. I would like to hear some brainstorming from other melons about what our options are. I know I don't have the one solution to this issue. I hope I am not stepping on any toes by asking that we discuss other ideas. I just don't want our efforts thus far to lose their momentum. I think the love that has been shown by our melon community to this point has been very encouraging. Any thoughts, melons???
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Post by Meredith on Feb 16, 2006 6:28:02 GMT -5
I agree Bobafett, when I replied to him I stated that we have tried and hopefully the Band will take legal action to get the domain back, and I hope they do. I was actually trying to think of what could be done in the past couple weeks. But I guess if its an official site wouldnt we have to hear from Rogers or someone else from the band? I would love to have an official site. I am just wondering who to send the request to and get the ball rolling.
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Post by Ryan on Feb 16, 2006 8:06:47 GMT -5
Yes indeed, if melon fans were to undertake the effort to build the website, they would definitely need blessings from the band to use the word "official". And truth be told, I think the former band members should be the ones spearheading the creation of it. I just think that Rogers, Brad, Christopher, and Glen should be made aware of the difference between urls and metatags when it comes to "searches" on the internet. In my opinion, that is really how to get around this ugly issue of some dude not wanting to sell the straight url name. If the notion that 'without the url the website would be useless' has become a roadblock to them creating one, I think we should let them know that it's not as important as it seems. . .
If blindmelon.com becomes available at a later date, it is pretty easy to funnel the two addresses to one existing site.
In regards to contacting the band members, I only have a couple of ideas. We could post suggestions on the Tender Trio Forum. I have seen Rogers comments on there a few times. And Christopher and Brad both have myspace accounts. Brad hasn't added me yet, but Christopher has. Those are two possibilities. Does anyone else have a better contact with any of them?
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Post by Ryan on Feb 16, 2006 9:13:00 GMT -5
Here is one example of an artist that did not get ahold of "theirname".com, but still put a good website together. Burning Spear has a website, but he was unable to secure the rights to www.burningspear.comSo he decided on www.burningspear.net. And even though there are advantages of having the .com because that's what people try first if they just type it into the address bar, there is a way around that. Whoever built his website used metatags so that his website link is the first to appear in Google and/or Yahoo when someone types the search term "Burning Spear". I have even noticed that when I type "Blind Melon Forum" (with or without quotation marks) into Google that this very cool forum does not end up anywhere on the first page of returns. Maybe we need to even explore metatags for this site so we can get more melons here
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Post by Meredith on Feb 16, 2006 13:24:34 GMT -5
How do you do it? I may have to do some research this weekend! I want us to be up there man!
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Post by Barbara on Feb 16, 2006 14:07:53 GMT -5
I have even noticed that when I type "Blind Melon Forum" (with or without quotation marks) into Google that this very cool forum does not end up anywhere on the first page of returns. Maybe we need to even explore metatags for this site so we can get more melons here I want us to be up there man! That would be really cool ;D I found this forum by Google search and I know it didn't show up right away but I don't remember what else I typed so that finaly it showed up on the first page... Concerning the whole site thing...I really don't know much about web sites and this stuff (although I hope I will a little by the end of the school year ) but your idea seems really good to me, Ryan. And in case I can help in any other way (that doesn't demande all this web site knowing...) I'll be glad to do so!
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Post by Ryan on Feb 16, 2006 17:27:51 GMT -5
How do you do it? I may have to do some research this weekend! I want us to be up there man! Hey Gelf, I'm not too sure how exactly to do it, but it's something that I need to learn anyway. So I will be backing you up on researching that. I am quite confident that this is how web searches work though. . . Maybe if I do a "view>source" from my browser on enough webpages, I will be able to find the metatags code, and hopefully all we have to do after that is describe the site with some keywords and upload it to the site. I don't know anything about the backend of this forum, so that's where I would need you to help me out. And Barbara, thanks for your help. We will definitely call upon you if there is something non-website related.
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